Brilliant news and all credit to Wes Streeting for looking at the evidence and having the courage to change his stance in the face of ideological insanity. Well done to everyone who has had a hand in the progress that has been made. Here’s to the continued destruction of the evil of gender ideology and its terrible harm to children and young people. And thanks Andrew for highlighting this issue so forcefully and clearly in articles and on Free Speech Nation.
Sorry, I take some of that back regarding Wes Streeting. There should be no trials on children. We know the harms of puberty blockers, we should not be experimenting on children. The evidence is clear, if children are left to their own devices and are not put on the path to medicalisation, they grow out of the anxiety inherent during puberty.There is no such thing as a trans child, just a social contagion which is brainwashing them into believing that they have been born in the wrong body. I’m afraid there’s still a long way to go and Streeting’s ideological language fills me with dread for children during this Labour parliament.
Andrew doesn't cover it here, but trials of puberty blockers are still going to be carried out apparently. Why this is necessary when the harms are so very clear is beyond me.
I knew that trials were planned but assumed that they were included in the ban. I then realised my mistake. I’m also very concerned at Streeting’s use of the language of gender ideology …..’trans children’ for example.
Agreed, TT. His time as Director of Education for Stonewall is clearly still skewing his perceptions, both in multiple references to unicorn 'trans children' and in reiterating the myth of the trans-identified being the most vulnerable to suicide. Both are irresponsible assertions from anyone, let alone the Health Minister.
There is no such thing as a trans child. Never was, never will be. There is a socially contagious, fashionable lie which is still going strong, still ruining lives.
Streeting has clearly made progress with this partial reining in, but he himself still doesn't recognise the full scandal, and seems to imagine the new centres for gender 'medicine' as sunlit uplands.
That article from Novara - WOW! A step by step guide to how to manipulate your GP.
The ban on PBs for children is such welcome news and it does feel like the tide is turning. Alas, there is still a long way to go. That article also highlights many of the issues which we still have to tackle - changing sex markers on passports (who needs a GRC?) being a major one.
For those of us on the US side of the pond, this was thrilling news, particularly in the wake of the Skrmetti arguments before the US Supreme Court. The Siân Berry clip and Wes Streeting's response were particularly fascinating in comparison to a colloquy in the US Supreme Court in Skrmetti. Berry's question “Does he understand that this is, at heart, discriminatory?” was strikingly similar to Sonya Sotomayor's question to Matthew Rice, Tennessee's attorney, who responded in similar vein to Streeting. Here's the clip of Sotomayor and Rice: https://twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1864380975779840466
This particular strand of genderism has now reached a stage where certain people - like Maggie Chapman and Stella Creasy - are going to become psychologically fascinating.
Aren't they just. One wonders what the human tendency to go down all guns blazing rather than admit having been perhaps a teensy bit on the Wrong side of history might bring to the surface.
Glad of a chance to tell you how enormously I appreciate your Spectator columns, Gareth. Always deliciously observed and cheering in their wit on often grim subjects. So often sensing what needs saying that others haven't articulated, and doing so brilliantly. I always leap to read them, thank you.
Good luck fighting the recent preposterous policing of truth.
Thank you Andrew! My province of Alberta is the only one (much to the chagrin of our opposition) that has disallowed puberty blockers for those under 16. The opposition has no clue about the Cass Review, nor WPATH Files.
It's "Prescribed" not "Proscribed" a couple of times here. These are almost opposites. It's a rare delight to be able to correct the brilliant writer and comedian Andrew Doyle! :)
I am sure he could correct me more often than vice versa! - but as a free speech advocate I'm confident he and Titania won't 'prescribe' me from his Substack :)
I am, of course, delighted that there is now to be an indefinite ban on puberty blockers being prescribed to children but I note with alarm that the clinical trials involving children are to proceed. Whilst Dr Cass refers to clinical trials she does not try and address the ethical guidance for the use of clinical trials which any government must address first before deciding to proceed. I have previously featured a piece which explains clearly why , in these circumstances, such a trial cannot be justified in the case of children - it seems to me that this stage in the consideration of this matter is being missed out:
In light of the fact that puberty blockers do not work but cause serious harm a clinical trial is equally scandalous and Wes Streeting is on the verge of undoing all his good work here.
There are no such beings as 'trans children' just confused and distressed children who may need therapeutic assistance, have been caught up in a terrible social contagion or who are being pressurised by homophobic parents.
Thanks Dusty. A much clearer explanation of the problems than my shocked reaction when I realised that trials were still going ahead. And the nonsense about trans kids and a higher suicide risk. For goodness sake!
Thank you Andrew for such a thoughtful opinion expression. As a Canadian it is shameful that Trudeau has been encouraged by the same woke organisations to proceed down the medicalisation path. We can only hope that a new Conservative government will reverse these shameful ideological measures. Next year’s election cannot come fast enough.
When I discuss how cautious we should be with children's bodies and that it may be that with the best intentions we are providing gay conversion therapy - I am always shocked by how many people tell me: "I have never thought of it this way." Lets love our children - no matter their orientation, or the way they dress - but remember that we are adults.
Thank you, Andrew Doyle, because it is you and people like you who have massively helped bring about some sanity at last to this issue!
Brilliant news and all credit to Wes Streeting for looking at the evidence and having the courage to change his stance in the face of ideological insanity. Well done to everyone who has had a hand in the progress that has been made. Here’s to the continued destruction of the evil of gender ideology and its terrible harm to children and young people. And thanks Andrew for highlighting this issue so forcefully and clearly in articles and on Free Speech Nation.
Sorry, I take some of that back regarding Wes Streeting. There should be no trials on children. We know the harms of puberty blockers, we should not be experimenting on children. The evidence is clear, if children are left to their own devices and are not put on the path to medicalisation, they grow out of the anxiety inherent during puberty.There is no such thing as a trans child, just a social contagion which is brainwashing them into believing that they have been born in the wrong body. I’m afraid there’s still a long way to go and Streeting’s ideological language fills me with dread for children during this Labour parliament.
What makes you row back, TT, on your praise for Wes Streeting. Maybe I am being slow but I do not see here anything to complain about.
Andrew doesn't cover it here, but trials of puberty blockers are still going to be carried out apparently. Why this is necessary when the harms are so very clear is beyond me.
I knew that trials were planned but assumed that they were included in the ban. I then realised my mistake. I’m also very concerned at Streeting’s use of the language of gender ideology …..’trans children’ for example.
Agreed, TT. His time as Director of Education for Stonewall is clearly still skewing his perceptions, both in multiple references to unicorn 'trans children' and in reiterating the myth of the trans-identified being the most vulnerable to suicide. Both are irresponsible assertions from anyone, let alone the Health Minister.
There is no such thing as a trans child. Never was, never will be. There is a socially contagious, fashionable lie which is still going strong, still ruining lives.
Streeting has clearly made progress with this partial reining in, but he himself still doesn't recognise the full scandal, and seems to imagine the new centres for gender 'medicine' as sunlit uplands.
That article from Novara - WOW! A step by step guide to how to manipulate your GP.
The ban on PBs for children is such welcome news and it does feel like the tide is turning. Alas, there is still a long way to go. That article also highlights many of the issues which we still have to tackle - changing sex markers on passports (who needs a GRC?) being a major one.
For those of us on the US side of the pond, this was thrilling news, particularly in the wake of the Skrmetti arguments before the US Supreme Court. The Siân Berry clip and Wes Streeting's response were particularly fascinating in comparison to a colloquy in the US Supreme Court in Skrmetti. Berry's question “Does he understand that this is, at heart, discriminatory?” was strikingly similar to Sonya Sotomayor's question to Matthew Rice, Tennessee's attorney, who responded in similar vein to Streeting. Here's the clip of Sotomayor and Rice: https://twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1864380975779840466
This particular strand of genderism has now reached a stage where certain people - like Maggie Chapman and Stella Creasy - are going to become psychologically fascinating.
Aren't they just. One wonders what the human tendency to go down all guns blazing rather than admit having been perhaps a teensy bit on the Wrong side of history might bring to the surface.
Glad of a chance to tell you how enormously I appreciate your Spectator columns, Gareth. Always deliciously observed and cheering in their wit on often grim subjects. So often sensing what needs saying that others haven't articulated, and doing so brilliantly. I always leap to read them, thank you.
Good luck fighting the recent preposterous policing of truth.
Thank you Andrew! My province of Alberta is the only one (much to the chagrin of our opposition) that has disallowed puberty blockers for those under 16. The opposition has no clue about the Cass Review, nor WPATH Files.
It's "Prescribed" not "Proscribed" a couple of times here. These are almost opposites. It's a rare delight to be able to correct the brilliant writer and comedian Andrew Doyle! :)
I am sure he could correct me more often than vice versa! - but as a free speech advocate I'm confident he and Titania won't 'prescribe' me from his Substack :)
Sorry, I'm not following. You seem to be saying 'prescribed' is not correct?
Yes, it's now edited (corrected).. The things we do for so little reward... 😀😁
What a load of twerps these 'gender affirming' people are!
Thanks, Andrew.
I am, of course, delighted that there is now to be an indefinite ban on puberty blockers being prescribed to children but I note with alarm that the clinical trials involving children are to proceed. Whilst Dr Cass refers to clinical trials she does not try and address the ethical guidance for the use of clinical trials which any government must address first before deciding to proceed. I have previously featured a piece which explains clearly why , in these circumstances, such a trial cannot be justified in the case of children - it seems to me that this stage in the consideration of this matter is being missed out:
https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/two-horses-too-many
In light of the fact that puberty blockers do not work but cause serious harm a clinical trial is equally scandalous and Wes Streeting is on the verge of undoing all his good work here.
There are no such beings as 'trans children' just confused and distressed children who may need therapeutic assistance, have been caught up in a terrible social contagion or who are being pressurised by homophobic parents.
Increasingly experts are questioning whether there is such a thing as 'gender dysphoria' or is this not something dreamt up in a back room in New York? I have also dealt with that issue recently: https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-gender?utm_source=publication-search
Wes Streeting needs to urgently apply the ethical guidance to the question of clinical trials.
I join with the comments of Tenaciously Terfin, TJ37 and Ian Watkins.
Dusty
Thanks Dusty. A much clearer explanation of the problems than my shocked reaction when I realised that trials were still going ahead. And the nonsense about trans kids and a higher suicide risk. For goodness sake!
Thanks, TT. I forgot to mention the oft repeated lie about suicide risk ( see Prof Appleton's report!)
Dusty
Have cross posted 😊
https://dustymasterson.substack.com/p/scrooge-a-christmas-carol
Dusty
Sanity at last. Thanks Andrew for covering this issue very effectively and eloquently.
Thank you Andrew for such a thoughtful opinion expression. As a Canadian it is shameful that Trudeau has been encouraged by the same woke organisations to proceed down the medicalisation path. We can only hope that a new Conservative government will reverse these shameful ideological measures. Next year’s election cannot come fast enough.
Fantastic news. Well done to all the amazing women (mostly) and men (importantly too) who bravely stood up for children and truth to bring this about.
When I discuss how cautious we should be with children's bodies and that it may be that with the best intentions we are providing gay conversion therapy - I am always shocked by how many people tell me: "I have never thought of it this way." Lets love our children - no matter their orientation, or the way they dress - but remember that we are adults.
Andrew writes proscribed instead of prescribed a couple of times.
I can't see this anywhere. Perhaps Andrew has now corrected :-)