It’ll be interesting to hear woke obfuscation in action once more people wake up to the knowledge that it’s those on the right standing up for women’s rights and that the left is so riddled with ideology that it is prepared to suspend reality in favour of insanity.
Expect people to claim this stuff never ever ever happened and was all "far right propaganda".
In their minds there never were men in women's sport, changing rooms, etc, (because of their TWAW mantra) and this bill is just part of a "satanic panic" against a "tiny group of people". Wokies will claim they were just trying to be nice when the "nasties" came into power.
I really struggle to fathom how this is still an issue, but it comes back to the question - can people change sex? And many people cannot be half-in on this. If you are all-in you have to pretend to yourself that the emperor has no clothes, and this goes down many layers in one's psyche. The problems come when the inevitable cognitive disconnects happen - Nicola Sturgeon/ Isla Bryson is the extreme end of such a path. No one wants a violent man with a penis in a female jail. But if you reverse up the path of how he got there, your whole belief system unravels.
I have friends, normally intelligent, thoughtful people who are still all-in on the trans ideal. But they often have a trans person in their life, and the life and situation of that person trumps common sense. Either that or they get no further than, "Well, I'm fine with sharing a bathroom with my dad... who cares?" Ten years ago, I was also fine with this "Live and let live" approach. However, the trans lobby could not leave it at that, and they demanded validation from the whole world at every move.
The beliefs of my friends come from a place of caring. They just want to give their support to their child or other loved ones. And to do this, they have to say that men should be allowed in women's sports. Otherwise, they deny the identity of their child and they will lose them. And for the others, it's just a matter of being kind. But common sense goes out of the window and they refuse to think through the implications. Whenever I've tried to talk it through with these people, I come up again a brick wall. They are not willing to engage with another possibility.
I hope you are right, Andrew, in what you say. I dread to think what would have happened if Kamala had got in. However, given people cannot change sex, it would eventually come out in the wash in some way or another. But with a far worse hangover, I suspect.
I totally agree with your comments Andrea and I too have encountered the ‘brick wall’.
I’ve chipped away at it as delicately as I can but people’s identity is wrapped up in their belief system so the ‘bricks’ remain intact.
It’s quite terrifying how so many people who are being ‘kind’ in their adoption of an ideology that causes significant harm to real women and girls, are willing to lose actual friends to maintain their ‘kindness’.
This sort of adherence to harmful ideology forces me to relegate those friends to the status
of ‘people I once called friends.’ I can still interact with them but only in a superficial level, which isn’t my idea of true friendship.
Jordan Peterson once said that you can accurately predict the whole spectrum of views and beliefs of these people once you know their stance one just one of these so called ‘social justice’ issues and I’ve come to see he’s right. They follow a pre-digested view of the world and aren’t prepared to use their own analytical abilities to challenge it.
This mindset can lead to some very dark places as the U.K. is finding out with the current calls for a national enquiry into the consequences of trying to hide the results of ‘being kind’ to one section of a community at the expense of another.
I'm also really struggling with this with my friendship groups at the moment. I've come to the same conclusion as you -- that I need to pull away and find a new "tribe". I cannot be my genuine self and I am constantly monitoring what I say. It's no way to exist.
To that end, I am attending the Graham Linehan event next Monday in London. If anyone else will be there, I would love to meet you! I travel a lot, and it's been hard to meet new people.
Regarding Jordan Peterson - I have heard him saying that. And I wonder - does it work in reverse? Are my ideals all connected and automatic? I don't think so, but the "woke" would also say that. I would hope my complete 180 over the last year, from having full-on Trump Derangement Syndrome to being an avid Trump supporter, would prove otherwise. (Another thing I could never mention to many friends.)
It will be interesting to see where the rape gang crisis leads. I think the snowball has already started down the hill, and this scandal can only accelerate it. But I don't think its going to be easy for the UK....
I agree, I’m finding that it’s difficult to interact with some old friends; not just because of watching what I say but I’m finding it hard to understand the easy acceptance of the insanity of the harm that’s happening to children, in particular. A quick
look back a few years should wake them up to the fact that it’s a manufactured social contagion.
I am very much in the same boat as you and Julie, Andrea. There are quite a few people I once thought of as close friends, who I can no longer talk to freely. Interestingly, they all have a trans friend, relative or acquaintance. I am very wary of them offering to 'support' my child in the face of my 'transphobia', if they knew my position. Given that my state has a conversion practices ban, and an Australia judge recently ruled a 16 year old should receive gender affirming treatment against one parent's wishes, I am honestly quite fearful.
All this 'woke' stuff has been increasingly crazy-making and I, like many others, have reached the end of my patience with it now! It makes me so frustrated, but Andrew always lightens the load with his witty pieces and this last one is no exception, hehe!
Gender identity is imagination . Gender identity is fantasy. Gender identity is a narcissistic charade, solipsistic play-acting by which someone hopes to give themself (sic) a meaning. It is a fiction, a fabrication, a falsehood, a fallacy, and fundamentally futile, facile, flatulent and fatuous, forced on us by those who wish to weaken society, especially our children, to render us more susceptible to coercive control (that's the critical theory aspect).
The Democrats have painted themselves in a corner. They were convinced they could "educate" the proles on all this gender nonsense, or else simply ignore them.
If they stay on this path I don't see them back in the White House pre-2032 to be honest. This gender ideology affects everybody but ironically it's a political fringe issue. It's a catch 22 for now. A Dem candidate can't win the primary without drumming the gender beat ánd can't win the presidency with it.
It will engage fewer and fewer voters over time, and I hope for the Democratic Party's sake they'll come to their sense quickly.
Well, great to see the Adults and back in the room across the pond. We were promised that, but we just ended up with this mess called a government. As you say Andrew, the surprise or maybe not, the democrats don’t seem to have learned their lesson. God bless Trump is all I can say.
The left now have a chance to reset, but they will need an uncompromising leader to achieve that. I have little doubt that most of what we're talking about here is cowardice, not ideological rigidity, so let's see if they can manage it. I sincerely hope so.
Well said, Andrew. The circus sideshow put on by the Democrats in the House in opposing this bill demonstrates they are neck-deep in a “genital inspection” moral panic. See Exhibit A here: https://substack.com/@ma4women/note/c-86167914?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=16541 Clark, for those who don’t know, is the House Minority Whip. She has a “non-binary daughter.” Helen Joyce was right—these parents will be the last to stand down from this nonsense, and they break any institution in which they participate.
So what kamala is saying is - all Latino and black people, along with every other persons from a different ethnic group who voted in their millions for Trump, is a racist ? Not sure how that works?
This insanity has not only damaged women and girls (which is bad enough) but it has damaged the tiny minority of people who suffer from actual sex dysphoria. This is almost certainly a neurological disorder, and it can be mitigated but not cured by medical transition. These people, who just want to quietly live their lives, have been overshadowed by lunatic Gender Ideologists who claim sex does not exist (then why would anyone have to medically transition?) and who claim you can become the opposite sex just by declaring yourself so.
Brianna Wu has been very articulate on this issue. I admire her and others who are genuinely transsexual and who know very well that sex is real, and who have gone to great lengths to alter their sexed phenotype to pass as the opposite sex. These are not people who are going to go online and talk about their "lady penis"; these are people who have done everything in their power to have all external signs of maleness removed. These are NOT the people you see towering over women on sports podiums or raping women in prison. Sadly, though, it is people like Brianna Wu who will pay the price for this madness.
As a former Labour loyalist, Labour abandoned us Terfs a long time ago!!
Sport is a no brainer or ought to be!! Hope what's happening in the States will increasingly happen here. English Hockey has just taken a step in the right direction. Cricket is going backwards though!!
It’ll be interesting to hear woke obfuscation in action once more people wake up to the knowledge that it’s those on the right standing up for women’s rights and that the left is so riddled with ideology that it is prepared to suspend reality in favour of insanity.
Expect people to claim this stuff never ever ever happened and was all "far right propaganda".
In their minds there never were men in women's sport, changing rooms, etc, (because of their TWAW mantra) and this bill is just part of a "satanic panic" against a "tiny group of people". Wokies will claim they were just trying to be nice when the "nasties" came into power.
Mark my words.
It’s already happening.
Titania could provide online coaching sessions.
If she does I might almost be tempted to join Twitter. Or X whatever it’s now called. Or I could just wait until the book comes out.
I really struggle to fathom how this is still an issue, but it comes back to the question - can people change sex? And many people cannot be half-in on this. If you are all-in you have to pretend to yourself that the emperor has no clothes, and this goes down many layers in one's psyche. The problems come when the inevitable cognitive disconnects happen - Nicola Sturgeon/ Isla Bryson is the extreme end of such a path. No one wants a violent man with a penis in a female jail. But if you reverse up the path of how he got there, your whole belief system unravels.
I have friends, normally intelligent, thoughtful people who are still all-in on the trans ideal. But they often have a trans person in their life, and the life and situation of that person trumps common sense. Either that or they get no further than, "Well, I'm fine with sharing a bathroom with my dad... who cares?" Ten years ago, I was also fine with this "Live and let live" approach. However, the trans lobby could not leave it at that, and they demanded validation from the whole world at every move.
The beliefs of my friends come from a place of caring. They just want to give their support to their child or other loved ones. And to do this, they have to say that men should be allowed in women's sports. Otherwise, they deny the identity of their child and they will lose them. And for the others, it's just a matter of being kind. But common sense goes out of the window and they refuse to think through the implications. Whenever I've tried to talk it through with these people, I come up again a brick wall. They are not willing to engage with another possibility.
I hope you are right, Andrew, in what you say. I dread to think what would have happened if Kamala had got in. However, given people cannot change sex, it would eventually come out in the wash in some way or another. But with a far worse hangover, I suspect.
I totally agree with your comments Andrea and I too have encountered the ‘brick wall’.
I’ve chipped away at it as delicately as I can but people’s identity is wrapped up in their belief system so the ‘bricks’ remain intact.
It’s quite terrifying how so many people who are being ‘kind’ in their adoption of an ideology that causes significant harm to real women and girls, are willing to lose actual friends to maintain their ‘kindness’.
This sort of adherence to harmful ideology forces me to relegate those friends to the status
of ‘people I once called friends.’ I can still interact with them but only in a superficial level, which isn’t my idea of true friendship.
Jordan Peterson once said that you can accurately predict the whole spectrum of views and beliefs of these people once you know their stance one just one of these so called ‘social justice’ issues and I’ve come to see he’s right. They follow a pre-digested view of the world and aren’t prepared to use their own analytical abilities to challenge it.
This mindset can lead to some very dark places as the U.K. is finding out with the current calls for a national enquiry into the consequences of trying to hide the results of ‘being kind’ to one section of a community at the expense of another.
I'm also really struggling with this with my friendship groups at the moment. I've come to the same conclusion as you -- that I need to pull away and find a new "tribe". I cannot be my genuine self and I am constantly monitoring what I say. It's no way to exist.
To that end, I am attending the Graham Linehan event next Monday in London. If anyone else will be there, I would love to meet you! I travel a lot, and it's been hard to meet new people.
Regarding Jordan Peterson - I have heard him saying that. And I wonder - does it work in reverse? Are my ideals all connected and automatic? I don't think so, but the "woke" would also say that. I would hope my complete 180 over the last year, from having full-on Trump Derangement Syndrome to being an avid Trump supporter, would prove otherwise. (Another thing I could never mention to many friends.)
It will be interesting to see where the rape gang crisis leads. I think the snowball has already started down the hill, and this scandal can only accelerate it. But I don't think its going to be easy for the UK....
I agree, I’m finding that it’s difficult to interact with some old friends; not just because of watching what I say but I’m finding it hard to understand the easy acceptance of the insanity of the harm that’s happening to children, in particular. A quick
look back a few years should wake them up to the fact that it’s a manufactured social contagion.
I am very much in the same boat as you and Julie, Andrea. There are quite a few people I once thought of as close friends, who I can no longer talk to freely. Interestingly, they all have a trans friend, relative or acquaintance. I am very wary of them offering to 'support' my child in the face of my 'transphobia', if they knew my position. Given that my state has a conversion practices ban, and an Australia judge recently ruled a 16 year old should receive gender affirming treatment against one parent's wishes, I am honestly quite fearful.
All this 'woke' stuff has been increasingly crazy-making and I, like many others, have reached the end of my patience with it now! It makes me so frustrated, but Andrew always lightens the load with his witty pieces and this last one is no exception, hehe!
Gender identity is imagination . Gender identity is fantasy. Gender identity is a narcissistic charade, solipsistic play-acting by which someone hopes to give themself (sic) a meaning. It is a fiction, a fabrication, a falsehood, a fallacy, and fundamentally futile, facile, flatulent and fatuous, forced on us by those who wish to weaken society, especially our children, to render us more susceptible to coercive control (that's the critical theory aspect).
The Democrats have painted themselves in a corner. They were convinced they could "educate" the proles on all this gender nonsense, or else simply ignore them.
If they stay on this path I don't see them back in the White House pre-2032 to be honest. This gender ideology affects everybody but ironically it's a political fringe issue. It's a catch 22 for now. A Dem candidate can't win the primary without drumming the gender beat ánd can't win the presidency with it.
It will engage fewer and fewer voters over time, and I hope for the Democratic Party's sake they'll come to their sense quickly.
I love Titania's tweet (are they still called tweets?)
Well, great to see the Adults and back in the room across the pond. We were promised that, but we just ended up with this mess called a government. As you say Andrew, the surprise or maybe not, the democrats don’t seem to have learned their lesson. God bless Trump is all I can say.
The left now have a chance to reset, but they will need an uncompromising leader to achieve that. I have little doubt that most of what we're talking about here is cowardice, not ideological rigidity, so let's see if they can manage it. I sincerely hope so.
Well said, Andrew. The circus sideshow put on by the Democrats in the House in opposing this bill demonstrates they are neck-deep in a “genital inspection” moral panic. See Exhibit A here: https://substack.com/@ma4women/note/c-86167914?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=16541 Clark, for those who don’t know, is the House Minority Whip. She has a “non-binary daughter.” Helen Joyce was right—these parents will be the last to stand down from this nonsense, and they break any institution in which they participate.
Good to see that the issue of girls and women sports is getting mainstream attention. It is what made me peak initially.
So what kamala is saying is - all Latino and black people, along with every other persons from a different ethnic group who voted in their millions for Trump, is a racist ? Not sure how that works?
This insanity has not only damaged women and girls (which is bad enough) but it has damaged the tiny minority of people who suffer from actual sex dysphoria. This is almost certainly a neurological disorder, and it can be mitigated but not cured by medical transition. These people, who just want to quietly live their lives, have been overshadowed by lunatic Gender Ideologists who claim sex does not exist (then why would anyone have to medically transition?) and who claim you can become the opposite sex just by declaring yourself so.
Brianna Wu has been very articulate on this issue. I admire her and others who are genuinely transsexual and who know very well that sex is real, and who have gone to great lengths to alter their sexed phenotype to pass as the opposite sex. These are not people who are going to go online and talk about their "lady penis"; these are people who have done everything in their power to have all external signs of maleness removed. These are NOT the people you see towering over women on sports podiums or raping women in prison. Sadly, though, it is people like Brianna Wu who will pay the price for this madness.
As a former Labour loyalist, Labour abandoned us Terfs a long time ago!!
Sport is a no brainer or ought to be!! Hope what's happening in the States will increasingly happen here. English Hockey has just taken a step in the right direction. Cricket is going backwards though!!
Will cross post in due course
Meanwhile here is prophecy via Monty Python!
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Dusty
😂 Eric Idle makes a more attractive woman than many we see today.